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back, keep the economy moving in the right direction. the labor market is clearly improving. frankly, many of us -- i'm sure the president as well would like to see it improving more quickly. but it's unquestionably a recovery, unquestionably moving in the right direction. should it be moving there more quickly? would we like to see that? absolutely. but no question there's positive momentum. >> economists and the cbo have given the projection of roughly 12 million jobs to be added over the next four years. this was the big talking point for mitt romney is he will create these jobs during his presidency. but this is already an established number. that this is coming on the economic path that we're already on. >> effectively, yes. and the private economists and the cb o economists in their budget estimates have put this number out there. and, yeah, the path would allow for that, although we've only recaptured 5 million jobs of the 8 million lost in the recession in the last three or four years. so we don't know what that number is actuall
back, keep the economy moving in the right direction. the labor market is clearly improving. frankly, many of us -- i'm sure the president as well would like to see it improving more quickly. but it's unquestionably a recovery, unquestionably moving in the right direction. should it be moving there more quickly? would we like to see that? absolutely. but no question there's positive momentum. >> economists and the cbo have given the projection of roughly 12 million jobs to be added over...
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it's no day to talk down the economy to score political points. but shadowing the president in virginia, mitt romney waited nine minutes deep into his scintillating stump speech before even mentioning the big news of the day, delivering it like a speech at a funeral. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, to this year has come down very, very slowly. of course, even those that have jobs are having tough times. >> okay. but give mr. romney credit because he actually admits the unemployment rate did come down. unlike prominent conservative jack welch who tweeted this morning, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. okay. tuesday he was a ruthless race baiter. yesterday he was a feckless delivery boy. today he's don corleone, and there's more where that came from. congressman west, take it away. >> you are alleging specifically that the president is engaging in a cover-up of the data. you are saying that the administration is act
it's no day to talk down the economy to score political points. but shadowing the president in virginia, mitt romney waited nine minutes deep into his scintillating stump speech before even mentioning the big news of the day, delivering it like a speech at a funeral. >> there were fewer new jobs created this month than last month, and the unemployment rate, as you know, to this year has come down very, very slowly. of course, even those that have jobs are having tough times. >>...
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i think he needs to take it head on and talk about the economy. the jobs we have not created ore the last four years. take it right to barack obama and try to turn this question into an offensive against barack obama's economy over the last four years. i think that's the best chance he's got. i think he needs to be careful of sometimes with the question everybody nows you're going to get, you kind of practice it and practice it and instead of it being a heartfelt question, it becomes a robotic response. >> maybe you get a little preview of it because the romney campaign released it directly looking into the campaign video. let me play a little clip of that. >> more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. we should measure our compassion by how many of our fellow americans are able to get good paying jobs. not by how many are on welfare. >> governor rendell, we've kind of gotten this prevau that they plan to emphasize different numbers. numbers about the economy they think will make americans think twice about whether the p
i think he needs to take it head on and talk about the economy. the jobs we have not created ore the last four years. take it right to barack obama and try to turn this question into an offensive against barack obama's economy over the last four years. i think that's the best chance he's got. i think he needs to be careful of sometimes with the question everybody nows you're going to get, you kind of practice it and practice it and instead of it being a heartfelt question, it becomes a robotic...
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he may not know it, but the economy is still lousy. you don't raise taxes now when the economy is lousy. >> to be continued, as always. governor sununu, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, andrea. >>> how will last night's debate impact the undecided vote here in battleground colorado? that next with democratic congressman -- congresswoman diana degette next on "andrea mitchell reports." of what'sot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance co
he may not know it, but the economy is still lousy. you don't raise taxes now when the economy is lousy. >> to be continued, as always. governor sununu, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, andrea. >>> how will last night's debate impact the undecided vote here in battleground colorado? that next with democratic congressman -- congresswoman diana degette next on "andrea mitchell reports." of what'sot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine....
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nate silver said first day in while obama is is happy for everyone to talk about the economy because the numbers are better than expected with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%, a four-year low. exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's not. the president is the out on the trail pushing it. >> as a nation we are moving forward again. we're moving forward. more people are getting jobs. now, every month reminds us that we've still got too many of our friends and neighbors looking for work. today's news certainly is not an excuse to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> my friends, whenever fall comes the leaves turn pretty colors and the jobs numbers bring in our dynamic duo, peter and jared. how are you my wonky friends? >> we're wonking alo
nate silver said first day in while obama is is happy for everyone to talk about the economy because the numbers are better than expected with the unemployment rate dropping to 7.8%, a four-year low. exactly where it was when president obama took office. there was only a net gain of 114,000 jobs created last month. too low for sustained unemployment reduction. so something for both sides to like. the president has to be thrilled about this jobs numbers, though. it's a game changer unless it's...
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they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>> next, do the math, mr. ryan. please, just do the math. stay with us. >> lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works, and you can -- >> but i have to -- >> let me -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have the time -- it would take me too lock to go through all of the math. that was me still taking insulin with a vial and syringe. me, explaining what i was doing at breakfast. and me discovering novolog mix 70/30 flexpen. flexpen is pre-filled with your pre-mix insulin. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. no vials, syringes or cooler
they've tried to hang onto the economy and foreign policy. they don't -- they're not able to hang onto anything except, of course, for this stereotype that he keeps reinforcing as the rich, out of touch guy. i think going into the debate, like that's his biggest hurdle is to not say anything else that really grounds that stereotype and grounds that image that the american people have for him. >> so no mention of the 47%? anna marie cog and jonathan capehart, thank you, both. >>>...
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the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he doesn't, what ammunition does he have to actually have a good showing? >> i'm told there are examples of elections turning on debates, president bush for example started gaining on al gore when they faced off in 2000. is it usually the case that debates are quite the kind of game-changer that everybody thinks this one has to be for romney to do anything successfully in november? >> no, it's not. the historical data shows that i think we sort of exaggerate the role of debates. i would tip my hat to the washington monthly that has a nice article that goes through some of the political science and poll
the only thing he can argue is that obama has not been a good steward of the economy, but as we know, obama has a very good answer to that. and that's on offense. then you think about what he has to do on defense. he's going to be on the defense on the 47%. he's going to be on defense on his tax question. i mean, this is a guy who doesn't have very much to work with at this point. so it's hard for me to see, even if he doesn't make a major gaffe, which he does on a weekly basis, even if he...
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naturally it will include the economy. now the latest polls somehow president obama erasing mitt romney's edge on that number one issue and actually leading in some polls who would better handle the economy. president obama is also using a new line. >> during campaign season you always hear a lot about patriotism. well, you know what? it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle class. >> joining any now "newsweek" columnist and cnbc contributor, zachary carabaugh. good friday, sir. economic patriotism is a new part of the lexicon here. >> it is a new part of the lexicon. it can mean just about anything. i don't mean to sound cynical about this. if you're for the president's economic policies, you're an economic patriot, and if you're against it, you're not. it's not a clear policy. it is a very catchy phrase. >> it is a very catchy phrase. in addition to being a centerpiece of a new ad, former ohio governor ted strick
naturally it will include the economy. now the latest polls somehow president obama erasing mitt romney's edge on that number one issue and actually leading in some polls who would better handle the economy. president obama is also using a new line. >> during campaign season you always hear a lot about patriotism. well, you know what? it's time for a new economic patriotism. an economic patriotism rooted in the belief that growing our economy begins with a strong and thriving middle...
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do you think we should build the economy from the middle class out like the president does or the top down like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is more difficult. for the umpteenth time he has to introduce himself to the american people and erase all the impressions of the mitt romney we met earlier and reveal a coherent person, one voters can imagine as a leader. is this debate more romney against himself? critics paint him displaying this flaccid leadership. >> he has to present himself as a president who would represent all americans. he said that several times. he's practicing that debate line. here again, even when he engages with that comment, it reminds people of that 47% remark. you see him over the last couple of days. i think it was today there is an interv
do you think we should build the economy from the middle class out like the president does or the top down like mitt romney does? >> credit ben labolt, thanks for joining us today. >> thanks. >> we say good morning to our tuesday political power panel. leah henderson, ted devine, senior strategist for al gore and john kerry. eugene robinson wrote in "the washington post" the challenges facing mitt romney in this debate, but going specifically saying romney's task is...
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elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42 straight months with unemployment above 8%. >> still 8% with over 43 straight months. >> today, that talking point disintegrated and president obama has a strong record to campaign on. >> this morning we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to the lowest level since i took office. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> now, governor romney issued a statement today saying, quote, this is not what a real
elect me, i can turn the economy around. but today the rationale for his entire campaign is crumbling. the new job numbers are out and unemployment has dropped to 7.8%. under 8% for the first time since president obama first came into office. that's progress on jobs and that's good for america. but it's absolutely demolishes a favorite romney talking point. >> three years later, unemployment is still above 8%. >> we've gone 41 months with unemployment above 8%. >> we've had 42...
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care, one segment on the role of economy. no question on vintage youtube clips which is a total bummer to those on the right hoping for more of this. it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about more people being on welfare and all of that, so i would imagine we'll hear some of that. i actually disagree with something mark said. i think this was very much a play for the base. even our nbc news poll, 23% of people said, that 47% comment made them like mitt romney better. so there are people out there who agree with those comments. >> aren't they locked up already? that's a question -- >> no. because remember we've also seen reuters has had the polling and a lot of polling that show some low-income southern whites are thinking he's too
care, one segment on the role of economy. no question on vintage youtube clips which is a total bummer to those on the right hoping for more of this. it is teed up to be a debate about big ideas. is mitt romney going to deliver? >> i am sure that part of the reason this video is out there, just the day before, is to give romney the opportunity to, perhaps, reference it when you talk about the role of government, when you talk about the economy, he's got some phrases he likes to use about...
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the heart of romney's argument against obama is obama hasn't helped the economy. ohio is a state it is doing better than the national of a range the auto bailout has a practical effect on people's lives, know people working in auto plant, suppliers of auto plant and the natural gas boom, a little beneath the radar has helped the unemployment rate in ohio. that is has resulted in obama dog better nationally better than nationalism people talking about the possibility romney could pull out of ohio and still win. i think that's very difficult to envision. if romney loses ohio, in particular if ohio is long gone, obama is going to win you can the votes aren't there else where to make up for the loss of those 18 electoral votes. >> nate, i want to talk about you, talk about you for a second? >> if you really want. >> you are the political blogging star of 2012. you are the hot new guy that all the smart kids want to read and talk about and listen to. how does that feel to be the cool new guy on the block? >> you know, i don't think i'm that cool, actually. for one, i'm
the heart of romney's argument against obama is obama hasn't helped the economy. ohio is a state it is doing better than the national of a range the auto bailout has a practical effect on people's lives, know people working in auto plant, suppliers of auto plant and the natural gas boom, a little beneath the radar has helped the unemployment rate in ohio. that is has resulted in obama dog better nationally better than nationalism people talking about the possibility romney could pull out of...
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is it strictly the economy? >> yeah, thomas. it's the economy. here in nevada i think we have arguably the worst economy if the nation. highest unemployment up over 12%. we have the housing crisis you mentioned. president obama has been able to come to this state and talk about housing a little bit. he went to reno a few months back. talked about how one of his programs is helping a couple here. mitt romney has helped president obama by making some unfortunate comments about letting the foreclosure crisis, letting the market hit bottom. but you mentioned the briefing booklet buying comments that woodward reported made on early in the administration when he decided not to take an aggressive stance against housing problem. the housing problem here in nevada is why the economy -- it's stalling the economy in any comeback here. >> nbc wall street journal poll shows nevada's vote irs are undecided. but here's the president talking about this debate this weekend while in nevada. take a look. >> you may have heard that in a few days my opponent in this
is it strictly the economy? >> yeah, thomas. it's the economy. here in nevada i think we have arguably the worst economy if the nation. highest unemployment up over 12%. we have the housing crisis you mentioned. president obama has been able to come to this state and talk about housing a little bit. he went to reno a few months back. talked about how one of his programs is helping a couple here. mitt romney has helped president obama by making some unfortunate comments about letting the...
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for half of the people on the economy, right? that's how the comments were percei perceived. to your question, ed, i want to add, this is not just having a trickledown effect to other senate races. the only shot we have at electing a new woman governor is actually -- >> it's ticket-wide, no question. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nationally with the gop. >> keli goff, sam stein. >>> coming up, a hidden video at a mitt romney fund-raiser has sparked controversy about mitt romney's past investments in china. we'll tell you all about it next. yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. >>> up next, new details about mitt romney's past investments in china. >>> and later george w. bush is staying away from the campaign trail, but his trip to the cayman islands could be a headache for mitt. sleep train's inventory clearance sale is
for half of the people on the economy, right? that's how the comments were percei perceived. to your question, ed, i want to add, this is not just having a trickledown effect to other senate races. the only shot we have at electing a new woman governor is actually -- >> it's ticket-wide, no question. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nationally with the gop. >> keli goff, sam stein. >>> coming up, a hidden video at a mitt...
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one of the things right now is that the economy is at a pretty uncertain stage. talk about the jobs numbers, there are really cross currents there and you can read the economy many ways. the opinion polls show that democrats and republicans have a very different perception about whether there's actually growth right now or not. and what we are going to see is a lot of the money targeted to campaigns that are trying to ferry out the weak spots in each other's arguments and target people to play on those fears. >> and the european economy could blow up in ways to have a huge ratification here. >> if in doubt, blame the europeans. >> jillian, well said. nick, great to have you. congressman israel, thank you so much for coming in. good to see all of you. while the debate focused on domestic issues, as we just mentioned, the situation in syria is getting worse. turkey launched a retaliatory launch against syria this morning, the second since a mortar attack yesterday that killed five people in the turkish border town. russia says syrian officials said the shelling was
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if you look at the polls and ask people how the economy are doing. democrats say great, republicans say it's doing terribly, politics there is trumping and lived experience of the economy, pretty remarkable. >> i want to bring in an old and sort of strongly held beleaf among conservatives that rick santorum voiced talking about who's on their side. >> we will never have the media on our side. ever in this country. we will never have the elite, smart people on our side. because they believe they should have the power to tell you what to do. >> i love this. the elite smart people, the last time i checked, run a lot of companies because they're elite and many cases because they are smart and good at certain things and what mitt romney referred to as the 1% recently in his tax discussion and what santorum is talking about are elites who contribute and control a lot of the debate, right? >> well, so what i see here, both with the polls can make -- you can make polls say anything which is not true, you cannot make polls say anything, ands also with this --
if you look at the polls and ask people how the economy are doing. democrats say great, republicans say it's doing terribly, politics there is trumping and lived experience of the economy, pretty remarkable. >> i want to bring in an old and sort of strongly held beleaf among conservatives that rick santorum voiced talking about who's on their side. >> we will never have the media on our side. ever in this country. we will never have the elite, smart people on our side. because they...
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on the one hand, this election is about the economy. and regardless of how tempting foreign policy is right now, come election day, voters care most about the economy. that's true i think every year. we know this from 2004. which was supposed to be an election on foreign policy and still exit polls showed most voters cared about the economy. so i think the advisors who want him to stay on message about the economy are right. however, the other side to this, and i guess i'm arguing two points here, the other side to this is, there are areas to exploit. obama's foreign policy has been whitewashed by his defenders and i think there are people on the right in the middle and honest people on the left who would be outraged to hear a little bit more about obama's failed promises. the problem mitt romney is going to have, he has to come at foreign policy from the left and right. that's tricky. from the right, he needs to talk about obama's policy of open hands versus clenched fists, have seen deterioration with relationships with russia, iran,
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than the rest by this softer economy. and so i would do what governor romney has been doing and that is continue to address the base issues. this is an election that has to look at how well we have done over the last four years. president obama was elected with this hope and this vision for change. and we have seen change actually for the worst. i think it is very fair to look at his record and say here is what he said four years ago and here is what he hasn't accomplished. so obviously a lot of tonight is going to be about president obama's record, just since four years ago president obama was looking back at the record of those he wanted to replace. >>ormer republican governor out here. thanks for coming on this. >>> the monthly private payrolls report is out today. markets are just opening. let's get to the market run down. becky quick is here on the other side of the camera. >> i like this. >> private payroll, adp. mid 100s. does it tell us anything? >> 162 is better than the street has been expecting. adp does payrol
than the rest by this softer economy. and so i would do what governor romney has been doing and that is continue to address the base issues. this is an election that has to look at how well we have done over the last four years. president obama was elected with this hope and this vision for change. and we have seen change actually for the worst. i think it is very fair to look at his record and say here is what he said four years ago and here is what he hasn't accomplished. so obviously a lot...
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but they will come at him on the economy. what is the response going to be? >> well look, i think the president -- the response obviously is two fold. let's talk about where we've come from, losing 800,000 jobs a month to 30 plus months of positive private sector job growth, added 5 million jobs, you know, since we hit the bottom and -- but i think what's most important and voters want to hear is what you going to do as president going forward and i think the president will be anxious to talk about bringing manufacturing jobs back from overseas and putting americans back to work, improving our educational system, recruiting and training math and science teachers to get our children prepared for those important jobs. >> those are goals. those are goals and mitt romney has goals. but when are -- >> no, no andrea -- >> specific. >> it is not a goal to end tax breaks for companies that move jobs overseas and incentivize them to come back and create a million jobs in manufacturingp. we've seen the greatest increase in manufacturing jobs in more than 20 years under
but they will come at him on the economy. what is the response going to be? >> well look, i think the president -- the response obviously is two fold. let's talk about where we've come from, losing 800,000 jobs a month to 30 plus months of positive private sector job growth, added 5 million jobs, you know, since we hit the bottom and -- but i think what's most important and voters want to hear is what you going to do as president going forward and i think the president will be anxious to...
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and future economies. let me play a clip from wednesday's debate. >> i think it's, frankly, not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next generation, and they're going to be paying the interest and the principle all their lives, and the amount of dead we're adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. >> which brings us to your provocative article in the national journal, generational warfare, the case against parasitic baby boomers. you start reading it and it says i love my father, there's a lovely picture of your father and you accuse him and all the other parasite his age of breaking the sacred bargain that every generation will pass a better country on to their children than the one they inherited. and then he kind of kicks your butt in the argument when you try to point out point by point. tell us why you wrote this article. >> well, first off, i'd like to point out i win at the end. secondly, he also wins b
and future economies. let me play a clip from wednesday's debate. >> i think it's, frankly, not moral for my generation to keep spending massively more than we take in knowing those burdens are going to be passed on to the next generation, and they're going to be paying the interest and the principle all their lives, and the amount of dead we're adding at a trillion a year is simply not moral. >> which brings us to your provocative article in the national journal, generational...
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times you and i have had strategists as a part of this panel and they say he wants to talk about the economy, not by any stretch of the imagination say what's happening in afghanistan or libya should be diminished but the domestic policy issue, getting people to work, that is supposed to be governor romney's a game. >> but it hasn't played so well particularly in the afternoon math of the 47% comment. i think they sense weakness given what transpired in libya. i heard earlier today, paul ryan talk about how we're pulling out of afghanistan at a time when troops are getting killed. if what he's saying is we should be saying and beefing up our support there, i think that's the wrong conclusions. most americans say let's get the hell out even sooner than we forecast. >> i'm going to ask only steve this question, "the washington post" debate question, who will win the debate, obama or romney? you only give one choice. >> i think if romney is allowed to play offense he will win. >> that is no the -- not a part the answer. they didn't give people to write a description and explanation. obama, or r
times you and i have had strategists as a part of this panel and they say he wants to talk about the economy, not by any stretch of the imagination say what's happening in afghanistan or libya should be diminished but the domestic policy issue, getting people to work, that is supposed to be governor romney's a game. >> but it hasn't played so well particularly in the afternoon math of the 47% comment. i think they sense weakness given what transpired in libya. i heard earlier today, paul...
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the economy created more jobs than previously estimated. there are people who don't like this number at all. leading the band is the legendary ceo of general electric, jack welsh. here's the tweet you put out this unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. and i'm just wondering, i understand the way it works the president gets a heads up on the unemployment number 4:00 the day before and has to keep it to himself. you're saying in your tweet this morning that the news went the other way, the people working for the president somehow got the bureau of labor statistics and played with the numbers so it's down below 8 today. how does it work from your perspective? what happened here? >> all i can talk about are some of the numbers. we had 600,000 government jobs added in the last two months. we had 873,000 jobs by a household survey, which is a total estimate, from 50,000 phone calls. of those 600,000 were temporary workers. chris, these numbers are all a series of assumptions. tons of assu
the economy created more jobs than previously estimated. there are people who don't like this number at all. leading the band is the legendary ceo of general electric, jack welsh. here's the tweet you put out this unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numbers. and i'm just wondering, i understand the way it works the president gets a heads up on the unemployment number 4:00 the day before and has to keep it to himself. you're saying in your...
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, the economy was in free fall. and since then, it's gotten better. at first, it got worse at a slower rate. that's not a great slogan. but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to dig out of. we're not there but we're doing as good as we can expect to be doing. and there's been there important psychological barrier of 8%. does getting underneath that barrier to 7.8% really do much for president obama's talking point, that we have come a long way and now voters should let him finish the job, or do these kind of changes in numbers matter in washington but they're not what voters see around them so they're kind of a story here but not actually in the campaign. >> first of all i'm glad you asked alice the economi
, the economy was in free fall. and since then, it's gotten better. at first, it got worse at a slower rate. that's not a great slogan. but for the last 2 1/2 years, it has gotten steadily better in the sense that jobs have grown every year. every month. >> and sam, when you talk to the obama campaign, the particular way they see the voters who are going to side with them, or at least a lot of them practically swing voters, is what they believe, as alice said, we have a very deep hole to...
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i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on style versus substance. and can you really coach style? i mean, maybe you can say don't look at your watch, but aren't these guys who they are by now? >> i think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the candidates look like they're comfortable in their own skin. i think the president certainly does. and it's been perhaps more difficult for governor romney because he's had to change positions a number of times throughout the campaign. >> well, that's the democratic talking point. having said that, do you think that this is -- the debates are a lot about who would you rather have a beer with? who would you like to have lunch with? >> my sense is the debate is about who has the better vision for the country's future. who really understands the challenges. who's got the right plan and who's likeliest to make it happen. >> what do you think the biggest challenge is for the president? in bloomberg, al hunt s
i think they've heard a lot about the economy. and they're not interested in the minutia. >> governor, let me get your take on style versus substance. and can you really coach style? i mean, maybe you can say don't look at your watch, but aren't these guys who they are by now? >> i think a lot of it comes down to whether or not the candidates look like they're comfortable in their own skin. i think the president certainly does. and it's been perhaps more difficult for governor...
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the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just point to the fact of the economy and the recovery is going slowly? why then put in this conspiracy somehow that the books were cooked? if the obama administration cooked the books, certainly the bush administration would have done so in those terrible years when the economy turned, or if someone in the administration has that kind of power. >> yeah. i actually agree 100% with mr. harwood and with tony whose tweet you quoted. you don't have to attack the integrity of the number to attack the substance of the numbers. 114,000 new jobs is nothing to celebrate. it takes 150,000 new jobs every month to absorb new work into the work force. we have 3.4 college graduates this year that need to find jobs and need 150,000 jobs to stosh them and the other people entering the work force. back in 2004 barack obama attacked president bush for a jobs report where 300,000 jobs were create
the economy is struggling to get on its feet. why would you have congressman alan west and others say that the books are cooked when you could secertainly just point to the fact of the economy and the recovery is going slowly? why then put in this conspiracy somehow that the books were cooked? if the obama administration cooked the books, certainly the bush administration would have done so in those terrible years when the economy turned, or if someone in the administration has that kind of...
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but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stable economies. >> one thing that came up last night was about mitt romney's plan to add 12 million jobs, but the economic forecast that's been projected by the cbo already says that 12 million jobs are going to be added over the next four years because of the current path we are on economically. so senators, i want to get you on the record about what came up about obama care last night and the arguments that were made back and forth on that front. who made the better argument about where we stand and what we need as a nation health care wise? >> we saw mr. romney as an etch-a-sketch. when he was running in the republican primary he moved to the right. yeste
but let's get back to the economy, it was governor romney who talked about what he would do to create jobs. he's the one who put forward specifics about his plan. one thing that know one has talked about today is that his five-point plan includes increasing trade with central and south america. trade in our hemisphere, which is absolutely essential for us and easier and will build up central and south america so that it has more stable economies. >> one thing that came up last night was...
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between 1950 and 1970, the economy grew at a rate of 3.9%. and this, when the average top marginal tax rate was 84.9%. now, compare this with the period from 1987 to the year 2010, when the average tax rate was just 36.4%. the economy grew at a far less robust rate of just 2.9%. we keep being told that mr. romney's been rehearsing his zingers. but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know who's stupid when it comes to the economy. thanks so much for watching. thank you to the university of denver for hosting us. and to all of you watching at home. my colleague, chris mathews is also here in denver. he picks things up with "hardball." two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. and every day since, we've worked hard to keep it. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help people and businesses who were affected, and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open for everyone to enjoy -- and many are
between 1950 and 1970, the economy grew at a rate of 3.9%. and this, when the average top marginal tax rate was 84.9%. now, compare this with the period from 1987 to the year 2010, when the average tax rate was just 36.4%. the economy grew at a far less robust rate of just 2.9%. we keep being told that mr. romney's been rehearsing his zingers. but let's hope that he's not going to use that line from president clinton, it's the economy, stupid, because the easiest response to that is, we know...
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how do they go out now and talk down the economy even further? it's really difficult to do given this significant accomplishment. and i think what is even more significant about this, you know, after the debate performance in which we all agree was not good on behalf of the president, the republicans and the governor, governor romney's campaign thought they had momentum. this now i would say has popped that balloon in a significant way and allows the president now to go out there as he did today in a very forceful way and make the argument that the country is moving in the right direction. you do not want to take us back in the wrong direction. >> you know, in a lame duck session of the congress we had this big discussion about the bush tax cuts. the republicans are so far off their game right now their reaction today should have been well we told president obama to extend the bush tax cuts. you can't raise taxes on the job creators. they don't even know their own talking points. what do they do now? they come out and accuse the president and the
how do they go out now and talk down the economy even further? it's really difficult to do given this significant accomplishment. and i think what is even more significant about this, you know, after the debate performance in which we all agree was not good on behalf of the president, the republicans and the governor, governor romney's campaign thought they had momentum. this now i would say has popped that balloon in a significant way and allows the president now to go out there as he did...
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he's upset. [ male announcer ] spend less time at gas stations with best in class fuel economy. it's our most innovative altima ever. ♪ check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. ln cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> i couldn't believe the other day when the president's opponents said that the 47% of the american people who don't pay income tax, just want to hang around and be dependent on the government, you know, we just had to ween them off of that because they didn't want to pay income tax. now, a guy with a tax account in the cayman islands is attacking other people for not wanting to -- i mean, you got to give him credit. >> bill clinton, back in new hampshire today, for the president. meanwhile, mitt romney is narrowing president obama's lead in our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" national poll but the battleground states show he has a difficult path to 270. tonight is his biggest chance to change the momentum of the campaign. what is his game
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it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >> quick, because i want to get some sound, but go ahead. >> real quick, this notion that somehow the president and democrats aren't out there talking about the economy is laughable. the problem with the romney campaign is not that they don't talk about the economy. they don't talk about their policies. it's the american people aren't buying it. they do not want to go back -- um not sure what it takes for the romney campaign to observe this revelation. but they do not want to go back to the same policies that created this mess. that is the fundamental problem with the romney campaign. you cannot keep selling what people do not want to buy. >> okay, you know what? jonathan. i want to throw this at you. newt gingrich was on "morning joe" this morning and he was talking about what romney needs to d
it's the economy. i hate to quote james carville, but it's the economy, stupid, once again. part of why people are focusing on anything but the economy is because economic news is not good. they have not passed a -- any budget much less a balanced budget in years. it is unbelievable. >> quick, because i want to get some sound, but go ahead. >> real quick, this notion that somehow the president and democrats aren't out there talking about the economy is laughable. the problem with...
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>> the big issue in new hampshire is always the economy and taxes. so, yeah, the obama campaign has been pumping tons of noneconomic ads up here, so to speak. the romney campaign in this next five weeks brings the examination back to the economic issue, the job issue, the 8% unemployment, 23 million unemployed or underemployed. that's what mitt romney has to start doing in the debate and in the next five weeks. and i think the election is still going to be decided on jobs. >> all right. governor john sununu, former governor of new hampshire. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. >>> next, we'll hear from the obama camp on this expectations game. what's at stake for the president? the dnc chairwoman will be here. >>> plus a judge is set to rule on whether a voter i.d. law that could swing a state that hasn't been a swing state but maybe put it is back in if it's put into place. and ballots are now being cast in another key battleground state. up to 35 states voting now. >>> today's trivia question. which politician has participated in the most general
>> the big issue in new hampshire is always the economy and taxes. so, yeah, the obama campaign has been pumping tons of noneconomic ads up here, so to speak. the romney campaign in this next five weeks brings the examination back to the economic issue, the job issue, the 8% unemployment, 23 million unemployed or underemployed. that's what mitt romney has to start doing in the debate and in the next five weeks. and i think the election is still going to be decided on jobs. >> all...
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we know the economy's got to get better. the president said that yesterday, but he also went a little further in touting those job numbers and of course the context means so much. two campaign rallies in two swing states, in virginia and ohio. he did the same in both states, largely said the same thing. meanwhile, mitt romney at a campaign rally in virginia downplayed the numbers saying this is not the recovery we want. a lot of people have simply quit looking for work out of frustration, artificially driving the number down. alex in reality talking about the so-called real unemployment rate. that's down as well. a year ago, exactly a year ago last september it was way up above 16%. no question coming off the president's poor debate performance, this was something romney needed. comes as become news from a political standpoint not to mention the millions looking for work. >> absolutely. more from jack welch's appearance on "hardball." take a listen to this, mike. >> reporter: do you mean it's a coincidence or do you mean you
we know the economy's got to get better. the president said that yesterday, but he also went a little further in touting those job numbers and of course the context means so much. two campaign rallies in two swing states, in virginia and ohio. he did the same in both states, largely said the same thing. meanwhile, mitt romney at a campaign rally in virginia downplayed the numbers saying this is not the recovery we want. a lot of people have simply quit looking for work out of frustration,...
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you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get to the issue that rich people need the money because they create the jobs. i want to bring in ed and al and steve and chris back into this discussion. i want to bring back chris matthews in denver in terms of hearing the republican spin on this. seeing what seems to be real democratic frustration on this. we're hearing already in terms of the different responses. the romney side is proclaiming victory. the obama campaign does not seem to be doing that. chris? >> when you read "the new york times" tomorrow, you'll see a side bar, strong night for romney. i think it's an objective -- it may be theater, but this is a major campaign event of the entire cycle. maybe the major campaign event treated as a lesson in information or education. it was a campaign event and both sides went at it to win and one side won. i go back to a couple of points. romney was able to get away
you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. our economy is in more trouble today. the growth rate last week was a pathetic at 1. 2%. >> very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> we finally get to the issue that rich people need the money because they create the jobs. i want to bring in ed and al and steve and chris back into this discussion. i want to bring back chris matthews in denver in terms of hearing the republican spin on this. seeing what seems...
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governor romney, he came into this wanting to make it a referendum on president obama's stewardship of the economy, and very quickly it became about his own economic ideology and it became a choice between paul ryan and mitt romney and president obama and vice president biden's very different visions of our economic future. and so we're going to see that teased out again in the debate. i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the gang just love pushing that right wing agenda of theirs. but voters, yeah, let's just say they didn't find it as c
governor romney, he came into this wanting to make it a referendum on president obama's stewardship of the economy, and very quickly it became about his own economic ideology and it became a choice between paul ryan and mitt romney and president obama and vice president biden's very different visions of our economic future. and so we're going to see that teased out again in the debate. i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia...
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if card check goes in place, it will kill america's entrepreneurial economy. the president is bowing to the demands of big labor. >> of all things he's bringing up card check, this red meat for the organization. to your point they're no dummy, but these people don't have to read. we live in a different world than even four years ago, cable news is a strong presence, 24 hour cycle, twitter a stronger presence around. his game plan seems to be behind the curve of what is now modern politics, anne. >> it's funny, i'm old enough to remember a time when candidates went into different places and talk about different issues thinking people wouldn't hear them in different parts of the country. i think he's trying to -- when he's talking about card check, that is a dog whistle to certain members of the republican party. a lot of average voters don't know what that is. it's a union issue. for people who care about the unions and care about the public sector unions we've talked so much about, that's a message he's sending specifically to them. he's trying to walk and che
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the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch, and i mean it. here you put out the word, unbelievable jobs number, fair enough. these chicago guys will do anything so they changed the numbers. what evidence do you have that they got to the bls? >> i have no -- >> that the chicago guys got to the bureau of labor statistics and jimmied these numbers by 0.3%. >> i have no evidence to prove that. i just raise the question. >> you didn't raise the question. you said these chicago guys will do anything so they changed the number. you were asserting here in your tweet that you put out at 8:35 this morning, five minutes after the r
the 873,000 jobs in the household survey is the strongest economy since 1983. i don't think you can find an economist, there were 25 of them this morning that predicted 8.1% to 8.2%, but they did predict 114,000 jobs. we got 114,000 jobs, and somehow the assumptions ended up at 7.8%. >> well, let me get back to your tweet this morning. it must be embarrassing for you to do a tweet now after the power you used to have. i mean, tweeting doesn't seem like something i'd hear from jack welch,...
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that basically make his case for what he's doing with the economy. sure he says nice things about teachers and some other stuff. infrastructure in a vague way but there was no boom, boom, boom. romney had that five-point plan to start with. it was effective. and then another five points. >> the preparation wasn't good enough. it wasn't that they didn't practice enough they didn't have a strategy for the debate. >> and they needed to execute -- >> all three of you one at a time. what do you think romney went in there to do tonight? what was his plan? >> his plan was to seem more moderate. to seem more specific. remember, he knew he'd be under attack for not being specific enough. and be being kind of wonky, he kind of blunted that attack of the president. and he also needed to seem confident and presidential and he achieved that. obama did not achieve his objectives. >> what was romney's plan. >> i saw a human side. for the first time i saw a human side. he came out of the gate, i knew this woman. this is her story. we haven't seen this. >> for a guy
that basically make his case for what he's doing with the economy. sure he says nice things about teachers and some other stuff. infrastructure in a vague way but there was no boom, boom, boom. romney had that five-point plan to start with. it was effective. and then another five points. >> the preparation wasn't good enough. it wasn't that they didn't practice enough they didn't have a strategy for the debate. >> and they needed to execute -- >> all three of you one at a...
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there's a lot of issues for the economy of the president to have on his mind. he can't just campaign and debate prep. he's the president of the united states. he has to weigh things on his mind. who knows what's on his mind at that particular point in time. i don't want to make excuses for him but to suggest he's lazy. president obama does more before 6:00 a.m. than john sununu will do in a month. he's the president of the united states and he has a lot of work to do -- >> professor, i think most people would agree that the president does more in his sleep than john sununu. karen finney, what was underneath this, referring to the president as lazy and a pizza boy? >> well, this is what we have seen time and again from the conservatives in terms of the lack of respect for this president. they have really demeaned the office of the presidency. you had a prominent conservative writer earlier this week essentially say the only reason, the only excuse possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is because he's black. i mean, this -- you also had john
there's a lot of issues for the economy of the president to have on his mind. he can't just campaign and debate prep. he's the president of the united states. he has to weigh things on his mind. who knows what's on his mind at that particular point in time. i don't want to make excuses for him but to suggest he's lazy. president obama does more before 6:00 a.m. than john sununu will do in a month. he's the president of the united states and he has a lot of work to do -- >> professor, i...
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it's really jobs and the economy. can he win over voters there? he has just started two new ads in spanish. will that sort of argument help win some people over? >> no, because the republican party refuses the to acknowledge that immigration is an economic issue for latino. when you have the majority of latinos are within one generation of the immigration experience, how people acclimate within the new environment, within the new economy is an immigration issue. so even though most latinos may prioritize jobs above immigration without having an immigration process that allows parents or uncles to immigration and work in the economy, it's going to be difficult for latino families to integrate into society. >> it is widely believed that mitt romney cannot win the white house without winning florida. he has florida senator marco rubio out stumping. he is always considered a rising star. his name is always right in there. who do florida hispanics think of marco rubio? >> well, florida hispanics are really diverse. they're kind of like the country, whe
it's really jobs and the economy. can he win over voters there? he has just started two new ads in spanish. will that sort of argument help win some people over? >> no, because the republican party refuses the to acknowledge that immigration is an economic issue for latino. when you have the majority of latinos are within one generation of the immigration experience, how people acclimate within the new environment, within the new economy is an immigration issue. so even though most...
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if we bring in all these people to the economy, we're growing the economy. it's a net benefit for everyone. what i love about this study, the immigration restriction, the andy immigration crowd, they like to point, get the statistics for a specific day. look a snapshot in time and say this is how much the undocumented are costing us. this is what the illegal immigrants cost us. but that's not accurate. this study shows trajectory over time. it's an investment that pays off by investing in these young people. that's why i think this study is terrific. >> these are people who are americans. >> that's right. these are people who have been here since they were babies to young children. this is the only country they've known. they are fully aculturated here and have been, as raul says, contributing already in multiple ways to the country and are part of the country's future. i think is part of what we lose when we look at the change in demographics of the country, the fastest growing demographic in this country are young people. already, half of all young people
if we bring in all these people to the economy, we're growing the economy. it's a net benefit for everyone. what i love about this study, the immigration restriction, the andy immigration crowd, they like to point, get the statistics for a specific day. look a snapshot in time and say this is how much the undocumented are costing us. this is what the illegal immigrants cost us. but that's not accurate. this study shows trajectory over time. it's an investment that pays off by investing in these...
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it's a massive economy. they're trying to find using these statistical methods changes in a very large economy. every month afterwards the numbers get revised. they're all over the place. >> in this case they revised the earlier numbers up by some $85, 86,000. this means we have created more jobs in the previous months that have not been added. you talk about manipulation. they should have increased that number by that amount and that would have even been more accurate, but they didn't do that. that's the best estimate they had at the moment. >> right. also to the adp survey that comes out a little before the jobs numbers. it's almost always more jobs than you end up getting in the bureau of labor statistics. there's questions of the different methodologies of figuring this out. i think what's more pressing for what you were talking about in terms of politics, back when bush was in the office, when the left wanted to escape from the bush administration, they watched "the west wing." they didn't stop believin
it's a massive economy. they're trying to find using these statistical methods changes in a very large economy. every month afterwards the numbers get revised. they're all over the place. >> in this case they revised the earlier numbers up by some $85, 86,000. this means we have created more jobs in the previous months that have not been added. you talk about manipulation. they should have increased that number by that amount and that would have even been more accurate, but they didn't do...
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it's a bad sign if you want the economy to be bad so you can blame the incumbent president and beat him at the election. >> providing you are amenable to facts and reasonable discourse and you know something about the way statistical procedures work it's a good thing to know, yes. >> jared bernstein senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities, thank you very much for your time tonight and being willing to call bs where it needed to be called. thank you. >> thank you. >> i will say, you know, my take on this to my republican friends who are watchingance and i know you're watching, because i can hear you complaining sometimes. here's the thing about complaining about these numbers. you're not helping even your own guy. you heard what jared just said there about how we are getting accelerated improving growth. right? if you are going to lie about the numbers you can only lie for so long before people stop believing your conspiracy theory and eventually your candidate is going to need a theory and a case to the country for why he should be elected even though the economy is
it's a bad sign if you want the economy to be bad so you can blame the incumbent president and beat him at the election. >> providing you are amenable to facts and reasonable discourse and you know something about the way statistical procedures work it's a good thing to know, yes. >> jared bernstein senior fellow at the center on budget and policy priorities, thank you very much for your time tonight and being willing to call bs where it needed to be called. thank you. >>...
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internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's economy but have not slowed down the nuclear program. the report calls for another round of sanctions to be implemented. >> in the race for the white house, we have got new batch of poll numbers coming out on three more battleground states. according to the new nbc/"wall street journal"/marist college poll, the president has a slim lead over voters in north carolina where the democrats held their national convention earlier this month. obama won the state in 2008 by less than 1%. he also has a two-point advantage in nevada, well within the margin of error and in new hampshire where mitt romney owns a home, obama leads 51% to 44%. in all, three states registered voters said the direction of the country had indeed improved but the most significant was in new hampshire. back in june there was a 20-point gap between so-called wrong track and right track respondents. this gap is just seven points. yesterday, iowa became the first battleground state to begin early in person voting. ohio will do the
internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's economy but have not slowed down the nuclear program. the report calls for another round of sanctions to be implemented. >> in the race for the white house, we have got new batch of poll numbers coming out on three more battleground states. according to the new nbc/"wall street journal"/marist college poll, the president has a slim lead over voters in north carolina where the...
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poll by "the washington post" and the kaiser family foundation shows that medicare trails only the economy as the top voting issue in the swing states of florida, ohio, and virginia. and among voters who say medicare is extremely important to their vote, obama swamps romney by, get this, 13 points. when voters in those states were asked a similar question, woman they trusted to deal with the medicare program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on medicare by 19. in florida, 15. in virginia, 13. other polls have shown president obama's advantage on medicare has grown significantly since ryan joined the ticket. so let's go back to this again, trying to figure this out. he bought into a guy who was known primarily for this voucher plan, getting rid of medicare as we know it. basically go to a doctor and the bills are paid by medicare. you can't beat a system like that, joy ann, i don't think on this planet earth and have something paid for when you go to do it. there's nothing like it. >> and -- >> why would anybody want to change it? nobody would want to c
poll by "the washington post" and the kaiser family foundation shows that medicare trails only the economy as the top voting issue in the swing states of florida, ohio, and virginia. and among voters who say medicare is extremely important to their vote, obama swamps romney by, get this, 13 points. when voters in those states were asked a similar question, woman they trusted to deal with the medicare program, obama again trumps romney in all the polls. in ohio obama leads romney on...
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economy, but it's really many economies. so if you happen to be a constructions worker or sort of a lower-scale manufacturing worker, no, the economy is not getting better for you. it stinks. if you're unemployed it's still very hard to find a job. if you have a job, well, layoffs are at more than a 10-year low so your job security is pretty good. it really depends on who your and where you are. for a lot of people, things are okay right now. >> can you not stay away so long? great discussion. all right. thanks very much. >> thanks for having me, alex. >>> joining me live for more, from the democratic national committee, melanie, welcome. i want to first of all get your reaction to these conspiracy theories. will there be any sort of a formal response to them? >> well, i think what rick new man just said is a consensus here in washington that any allegations that the bureau of labor statistics would cook the numbers is ridiculous. it's outlandish. but it's not surprising coming from a republican party that has talked about d
economy, but it's really many economies. so if you happen to be a constructions worker or sort of a lower-scale manufacturing worker, no, the economy is not getting better for you. it stinks. if you're unemployed it's still very hard to find a job. if you have a job, well, layoffs are at more than a 10-year low so your job security is pretty good. it really depends on who your and where you are. for a lot of people, things are okay right now. >> can you not stay away so long? great...